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Manic Street Preachers
Archives of Pain
Track 5 - The Holy Bible
Archives Of Pain
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The respect they deserve bit Speeding up bit
transcribed by Adam and Paul Firth
Taken from BASSMASTA.NET - http://www.bassmasta.net
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Timmy Wanna Be |
#1 by Timmy at Jun 19, 1970 at 3:56 AM EST |
| Some things I'm not quite sure about with this: 1. Why would Myra Hindley be giving crochet lectures? (I'm pretty sure it's crochet as opposed to crotchet) 2. Who the hell are/were Blanche and Pickles? 3. At the end of the list of killers, second time round it goes 'Amin and...something' but it's not Milosevic that time, anyone hazard a guess as to what it is? Thanks | |
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Commie Badass |
#2 by Commie Hunter!!! at Apr 11, 1972 at 4:11 AM EST |
| The opening quote is from a TV drama, by the actress who played Barbara in The Royle Family. Also, instead of "Who's saying?" I always thought it was "Hussain". | |
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Alyssa Professional |
#3 by Alyssa at May 7, 1973 at 10:43 AM EST |
| The song is about capital punishment "give them the respect they deserve" is ironic, meaning they deserve no respect and should be treated as such, and a reaction against serial killers | |
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Squirrels Lead Player |
#4 by Squirrels Dyrant at May 4, 1975 at 4:59 PM EST |
| I think it's pretty important to remember the Manic Street Preachers were frequently contradictory in their point of view. I think the song puts across the attractiveness of the certianity and sense of retribution found in Draconian punishment, whilst simultaneously mocking its arrogance and brutality. Having said that, I'm fairly sure Richey definitely had a hangup about wanting to 'tear the torso with horses and chains', in that he repeated the concept in an interview. I think he was talking about how he wanted to make children watch murderers being torn apart on TV, so they know what happens to 'bad' people. Pretty fucked up, really. | |
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Lauren Rhythm Player |
#5 by Lauren A at Jul 31, 1977 at 3:10 AM EST |
| IT's about capital punishment and the glorification of serial killers | |
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Tadej Average |
#6 by Tadej Supukovic at Aug 7, 1977 at 3:54 PM EST |
| This is a disturbing song about serial killers. "Nail it to the House of Lords / You will be buried in the same box as a killer" - I think this means that those who oppose the government (in this case the British Government) will be symbolically be buried with a killer - i.e., the media will leap on that person and portray them negatively. The band is saying although killing is wrong, the world is an evil place, and many imperfections exist ("Killers..pick at the holes") | |
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Leo Average |
#7 by Leo Jaeggi at May 3, 1984 at 1:35 AM EST |
| this song is so lovely. one of the darkest songs i know. why do ppl prefer the new stuff to this? | |
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Splinter Average |
#8 by Splinter Cell at Apr 28, 1986 at 10:25 AM EST |
| I agree with tgd about this song being about capital punishment and how it shouldn't be forgiven, I think this was Richies' and Nickies' veiw because they wrote the song. Nothing to do with the song- I agree with them a murderer shouldn't be given food, water, access to family etc, theres only one acceptable punishment. | |
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Devon Wanna Be |
#9 by Devon Moreno at Dec 29, 1990 at 3:27 AM EST |
| Agree with johnno on this one- "There is never redemption Any fool can regret yesterday Nail it to the House of Lords You will be buried in the same box as a killer" This links in with the line about giving them (mass murderers) the respect they deserve. It is saying murderers should never be forgiven, and society is too lenient, they should be sentenced to death not life. | |
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chris Lead Player |
#10 by chris oshell at Nov 16, 1993 at 11:44 AM EST |
| Yeah, I can see your point...it is about capital punishment. These guys have some interesting views, not sure where I stand on capital punishment tho. | |
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phil Average |
#11 by phil smith at Nov 18, 1994 at 5:14 PM EST |
| Just one question: who's Yoshinori Ueda? All I'm finding are references to a baseball player and a surfboard designer. | |
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DEMENTED KID Average |
#12 by DEMENTED KID at Dec 5, 1995 at 10:16 PM EST |
| no the opening quote was by a mother of one of the victims of the yorkshire ripper. The song's very an eye for an eye a tooth for a tooth etc... Well little englander the manics said they had a right to contradict themselves something they do a lot. Altho I'm sure they had some excuse for patrick batemen like it wasn't glorifying him but it was talking about society I dunno can't remember lol. | |
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Callum Wanna Be |
#13 by Callum Parker at Dec 21, 1996 at 8:25 PM EST |
| mia, I think it can be taken as being sarcastic, particurlary if you look at the line "All I preach is extinction" which seems to be criticising those who are in favour of capital punsihment. I suppose it can be viewed as pro- or anti- captital punishment, depending on your own views. | |
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Prince Alex Lead Player |
#14 by Prince Alex at Mar 1, 1999 at 8:16 AM EST |
| Even Nicky admitted that he was baffled why Richey would endorce a so-called 'rightist' attitude towards serial killers. But it makes a lot of sense. The only sarcasm in this is 'give them the respect they deserve' meaning they deserve no respect at all. It shouldn't be considered a rightist thing, but Republicans in America have done great to wield this image, unfortunetly. | |
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a-MUSE-ing Rhythm Player |
#15 by a-MUSE-ing at Apr 22, 2000 at 9:56 AM EST |
| Given Richey James' mental state at the time, I doubt he was being sarcastic - I think he was completely sincere. James DB admits on the 'Holy Bible' DVD that he found the perspective of the song baffling. He's intent on distancing himself from many of the songs, too. I think the essence of the whole album is reflective of a seriously disturbed mind. Which is troubling, because I really like it! | |
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ramon. Average |
#16 by ramon. at Aug 23, 2002 at 6:38 AM EST |
| By the way - who submitted this? It's Archives of Pain, not Archive. | |
